Hey, everybody, and welcome to the podcast, where we talk to leaders in the Catholic Creative world and share their stories and insights with you. We hope that you had an awesome Christmas season and a great start to the new year.

Today, we’re talking with brothers Joe Marshall and Tommy Marshall about their work in web and software development. Joe and Tommy both spoke at the first Catholic Creatives summit, and in this episode they share their experience of starting an agency in their parents’ attic, recording an album that now earns them less than a dollar a year on Spotify, changing their careers from freelance to working at big agencies, and growing communities within the Church.

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